Niall McMugmedon, Genealogical Connections to Niall Noigiallach
Jul 22nd, 2011 by
L Stephen O
Researching my heritage I didn’t have to look far to find the name Niall Noigiallach (Niall of the Nine Hostages.) In researching possible connections to the O’Neills and McNeils in my own genealogy I looked at Niall’s. He is a fascinating figure in Irish History and Legend, and, as you might expect, this is true of the genealogical connections to this Ard Righ (High King) of Ireland.
Within the scope of this discussion are a legendary (but could it be credible?) connection deep into antiquity, all the way back to Adam. Christian monks recorded this connection, but was the adding of this part of the genealogy a fabrication or an inescapably obvious connection to the oral tradition that substantiated his right to rule?
Niall was a Milesian King and there are some who would doubt the historicity of this as much as they might the Tuatha de Dana or the Partholonians. The Book of Invasions would seem somewhat pointless if it was based on nothing at all. How much of what is put down to myth was real and what impact did this have on Niall in particular, but Ireland in general?
Niall raided Britain and perhaps as far as the Continent, among his abductions was a certain boy named Succat, a boy who would become a transformational force in Ireland known to the world as St. Patrick, the patron of Ireland. Niall’s son, Loegaire, met this escaped slave brought to Ireland by his father. As such, I think Niall, the Ui Niall, and Ireland generally faced transformation because of his actions and his descendants continued the process. One of the most famous Early Irish Churchmen was Columcille who was himself a prince of the Ui Niall dynasty.
I think it is undeniable that Niall Noigiallach is a transformational figure. In Irish History and Legend he holds a place between the two. In addition to the title “Nine Hostages” the epithet “Semi-Legendary” is applied to Niall. Some don’t believe he was all that the Four-Masters said he was, but DNA forces most to admit that, if nothing else, he was.
There is no end of argument about the Ard Righship of Ireland. Many if not most experts doubt that in the imbroglio that was Irish pre-Christian politics a true over-king that ruled the entirety of Ireland was possible. Many even argue that nobody back then claimed the title and that it is an invention of later imaginative documentation and dynastic justification after the fact.
All these may be true, but Niall stands at a crossroads in history where, while once, in the dim pagan past, every small Tuath had its king, afterward is seen the unification and record keeping of Christian monks that made claims a bit more testable, at least to historians.
Strange too (a Christian like me would say miraculous)that Milesian Ireland, so violent, so war prone, should be converted to Christianity so readily and with so little blood-shed. Christianity’s story is one of violent repressions failing to halt the spread of the Gospel, one after another, after another. Why in Ireland, where among the elite, war was very nearly a religion of its own, would Christianity conquer bloodlessly? Why in Ireland did the Irish, feeling they were not made to suffer, invented new sorts of martyrdom, Green and White, that influenced not only the Irish, but the Continent as well?
It may be that Niall, standing at this crossroad, holds some light to shed on this miracle.
LSO
PS. This is an introduction of sorts. I have been working on a post that has swelled to many thousand words. My goal here should be shorter posts and as time passed and new posts went wanting I realized that I needed to change my approach to this vast topic. The above is long on assertion and hints, but short on facts. I’ve broached a myriad of topics in this one little post which I will link to from this as I produce them a bit at a time.
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The Niall Noigiallach That Was
Dec 9th, 2010 by
L Stephen O
If asked to name three Irish kings it is likely that the names Brian Boru, Conn of the Hundred Battles, or Niall of the Nine Hostages would come up in the conversation. Conn, because he just sounds like he’d rock, I mean “Hundred Battles ,” yeah.
Niall would come up because there is a pretty good chance you are related to him. So, because I’m one of his relations (and thereby Conn Cetchathach), I’d like to talk about Niall Noigiallach.
The Real Niall
There are those who would place Niall under the heading of “Legendary Kings,” and by this they would mean that Niall of the Nine Hostages was a fabrication, not historical. I think that is just stupid. I’m sure his relatedness to so many might account for some embellishment, but don’t tell me he didn’t exist, that makes no sense at all. One of the reasons that I tend to believe some of these old tales, especially as they concern hereditary claims to royal titles is this excellent book available free online: After the Flood by Bill Cooper .
But to pare the man from the legend let me say that he was the son of Eochaid Mugmedon . There have been a lot of Eochaids in Irish History and so, like his son, Nine Hostages, Eochaid had a descriptive bye name that meant “Slave Lord.” Also of interest in understanding the family dynamic is that Eochaid came to his kingship after killing the man who had taken it from Eochaid’s father only the year before.
Niall’s mother was Cairenn Chasdub (of the dark curly hair) who was reputed to be the daughter of Sachell Balb, king of the Saxons. Apparently, poor Cairenn was a bit out of her depth in the Slave Lord’s household, because Eochaid the king had another wife, Mongfionn , who forced Cairenn into virtual slavery and forced her to expose Niall, that is to abandon him to the elements.
Likely Eochaid was off enforcing the Boroma (cattle tribute) in Leinster or fighting off somebody’s son who he’d had to shorten by a head for high-kingship. Although, he might have known all this and not really cared, it is hard to attribute a high degree of paternal affection from the name “Slave Lord.”
Anyway, this would be a much shorter tale had Mongfionn succeeded in getting rid of Cairenn’s son. Left to the elements, Niall was saved and raised by Torna, a poet. Being raised by a poet usually works out well. This theme of notable personages being raised by poets might be the sort of exaggerations that kept poets in high regard, even reverence.
Mongfionn, for her part, went on to try to poison her brother or Niall, or perhaps both. She is remembered so fondly that she became a goddess celebrated and associated with Samhain, perhaps for her maternal advocacy, but more likely for killing herself in her efforts to get her oldest son Brian the kingship. Anyhow, she is remembered when the dead come near and the veil between the living and the dead is the thinnest, perhaps as a warning, perhaps because a woman so implacable could not be stopped by something so mundane as death.
A small aside here. Though I certainly do not condone Mongfionn’s attributed actions, it does occur to me that if you were going to have a mom, I’d much prefer a fierce, take no prisoners, advocate like Mongfionn to a milk-toasty Cairenn leaving poor Niall out by the well to get pecked to death by birds. Perhaps being raised by a bard looks pretty good compared to that model of maternal indifference. Interestingly, the Irish had a strong tradition of fosterage among their elites. Perhaps this of Mongfionn is a source of that. Perhaps it is the inevitable effect of multiple marriages.
Niall returns from his poetical upbringing and has somewhere learned the sort of things that keep him alive, frees his mother, the Saxon princess, and puts him in favor of his father, the Slave Lord. I’m pretty sure these skills must have included a fair amount of skill with objects with sharp edges as that seems the sort of competence that would most please Eochaid.
I should also point out that there is a tradition among Celts of supporting or elevating individuals of competence to positions of leadership instead of purely relying on blood-lines. If Cairenn were truly Saxon and not just a
British King’s child who would one day be overrun by Saxons it would be all the more pointed, that the Ard Righ should be half Saxon over all Ireland would be amazing.
And yet it is amazing even at that. Cairenn, no matter the race of her parentage, was not Irish, she had no political power that might follow in her train, or even keep her out of abject servitude.
Mongfionn on the other hand was an Irish Princess, daughter of the king of Munster. She obviously had some power as she moves, first to have her brother rule in her son’s stead, and then to remove him by poison when he didn’t step aside. More to the point, no matter the truth of her, that is Mongfionn, she is the mother of Mugmedon’s sons who would found the Connachta.
So how could Niall achieve what he did? How could he even survive much less take his father’s position? Legends relate two events that speak to this question of how. First, the sons of Eochaid are set a test. They are locked in a forge which is lit afire and then the boys are judged as to what they choose to save out of the fire. Niall is judged to be the winner.
Next they are sent out hunting. They all grow thirsty and one at a time they go in search of water. Not far off, a hideous hag, guards a well and demands a kiss to get water. Most refuse, Niall gives her a proper kiss (or much more than that if some tellings are true) and the loathly lady turns into a beautiful woman who is the Sovereignty of Ireland. For hundreds of years it will be the Ui Niall who control Tara and stand as high kings of Ireland.
You can read these tales and more from the Adventures of the Sons of Eochaid Mugmedon .
Niall founds the Ui Niall or rather, in following in the fine tradition of Eochaid Mugmedon, he raids, and dominates, and fathers sons who will hold leadership in Ulster and Meath for hundreds of years. Such is the power of this one man, Niall of the Nine Hostages, or at least that division of the Irish that claim him.
I think his significance doesn’t end with his relation to the leadership of pagan Ireland. He is involved in the foundation of Christian Ireland as well. It is Niall’s raiding in Britain that brought a young Succat to Ireland. God works in mysterious ways. It is Niall of the Nine Hostage’s own son, King Laoghaire , who, confronted with a magic beyond his understanding, converts to Christianity.
The conversion, begun near the hill of Tara, arguably the spiritual center of Ireland, sticks. Perhaps the most notable church leader after Patrick is himself a prince of the Ui Neill, that is Columcille .
So Niall Noigiallach sits at this cusp of Irish history. He is a notable culmination of Irish political power despite being the son of a foreign princess. He raids outside the insular boundaries of the five fifths of Ireland taking hostages and holding sovereignty in Scotland, Britain, Mann, and perhaps Brittany on the European mainland. Perhaps the origin of his name was more provincial, the name Noigiallach, that one of his first conquests brought a hostage from each of the nine Tuatha of Airgialla in the south of Ulster. Whatever the truth of it, Niall’s influence and his raiding went out from there as far as the continent even if Airgialla was the source of his bye name.
I have imagined the Airgialla origin of his name as the beginning of the symbol that seems to follow his legacy as well, that of the Red Hand. Read the Red Hand Of Niall , Or my re-imagining of a more traditional legend about the symbol of the Red Hand of Ulster .
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Why Name with a Bye Name?
Dec 7th, 2010 by
L Stephen O
I’m sure you are familiar with the naming convention of many Celtic peoples where a son is named after his father or at least a notable fore-bearer. Among the Irish you have Mc and Mac and O s which are really Ui s. The Welsh use Ap and Map the same way. In short O’Neill means grandson of Neill whereas MacNeill means son of Neill.
How else to keep separate all the Anguses and Rhaurys and Eochaids? Ah, well, before the application of the now traditional surnames, notable personages received Bye Names (at least we have theirs recorded, likely everybody had them). After all, in the list of High Kings of Ireland alone there are plenty of Eochaids and Aedhs and Nialls. Fortunately there are nickname like descriptive names that when added to their given names help to keep track of just which one you are talking about.
Interestingly many people who’s surname is O’Neill or MacNeill might think that their name comes from the famous Niall of the Nine Hostages. They may share genetics with Noigiallach but the name comes from a later Niall, Niall Glundubh, that is Black Knee.
Much more mysterious to me than how Niall Nine Hostages got his name is what in the world happened to stick Niall Glundubh with the bye name Black Knee. Does anyone out there know the origin of Black Knee?
All in all, from Nuada Airgetlam (silver hand) to Conn Cetchathach (of the Hundred Battles) to Eochaid Mugmedon (Slave Lord) to Elim Oillfinshneachta (Snow that tasted of wine) to Finnachta Fleadhach (the festive) Bye Names are just good clean fun.
Write me down as a yeah vote on renewing this tradition.
LSO
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Why I Like The Celts (and you probably do too)
Jun 28th, 2010 by
L Stephen O
I’ve been working on some “projects” instead of writing. I’m not saying that they were critical, but they have cut into my writing time. Among these was rereading a couple of novels because I thought that the next in the series MUST have been released. I thought I actually saw that it was, but no. Anyway, I had read my copy of George R. R. Martin’s Storm of Swords , but I had to rely on the library for A Feast for Crows . I signed up for A Dance for Dragons , but it isn’t even released yet. In fact, the last update from George was a couple years ago.
So. . . . . . I’m about ready to get back to work.
My intention, as I’ve mentioned and as is indicated by the title of this site, is to write about Celtic people, as I imagine they may have been, as I imagine they could be. It may be that this is what you seek as well. See my Focus Page for what I’m working on currently.
If not, and if you are interested, rather, in the romance and intrigue of the Saxons after Harold was defeated at Hastings you might want to take a look at this: Lothere by Jenny . This may keep you busy while you wait for me to write more that is Celtic and also rewrite what is merely Celtic into something good, or at least better than my first attempts.
I’ve also been thinking and doing some research and it is the thinking part that has led me to my topic today.
If you are reading this, it is likely that you are an English speaker. I’d say that there is an even better chance that if you are reading this you are from the United States. One of the main destinations for the Celtic Diaspora was the shores of the New World.
That being said, let me say that the spirit of the Celts lives in American rugged individualism. This American ideal is being trained out of us, to be sure, but a focus on the individual owes much to immigrants who themselves were likely influenced by these values. Individual Rights is a value that is codified in Celtic, Brehon Law, but that has had its full flowering in the New World, not the Old.
I planned to sprinkle this little post with several quotes about the flamboyant celtic spirit, their love of colors that some might term gaudy, a certain pride, but also extraordinary bravery. Instead I think perhaps I’ll put together a page of that sort of thing. The truth is that reading about CuChulain and Finn, Lugh and Nuada, the Dagda and the Morrigan, all of it makes me want to echo those old themes and bring them to another generation of readers, if I can. . .
. . . And so here we are. If you’ve made it to this post you may have become disappointed once again. I’m not very far along on this odyssey. I’m not sure if I’m up to it. But like my ancestors, it really isn’t about what I can do, it is much more about what I will do, and what I intend is large and gaudy and brightly colored, and of the same sort of beauty as the bagpipes. Certainly it isn’t the kind of thing that is for everyone, but I hope it is for you.
Hopefully this rambling confessional ends my hiatus and I can get back to the business of yarn spinning in the celtic mode.
Sincerely,
LSO
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Finn MacCool (Fionn MacCumhail)
Mar 31st, 2010 by
L Stephen O
I mentioned in my post about my progenitor, Niall of the Nine Hostages , High King of Ireland, son of Eochaid Mugmedon (Slave Lord), that I found Finn MacCool in the genealogy of Niall Glundub (Black Knee)
Just an aside. Does anyone know why Niall Black Knee was called Black Knee? I have no idea and I’ve been watching for it. The bi-name thing is kinda cool. Nine hostages, 100 battles, slave lord, even red sides makes some sense but Black Knee? I’d like to know what the story is with that.
Fionn Mac Cumhaill is the focus of one of the three great cycles of Irish Mythology. The Fenian Cycle follows Fionn and his struggles to survive, first of all, and to assume the champions role that his father had, and then as the leader of the Fiana (think Irish knights errant). In his quest he is opposed by Gol Mac Morna among others. Later legends turn him into a clever giant, but I like the Finn of the Fiana.
That Finn may have been an actual person is debatable, but what isn’t, is that this character, construct, or perhaps my distant cousin, this Finn left a mark on the Irish. And why not? If there was ever a perfect Irishman then it most likely was Finn.
Finn was a true Renaissance man. He was an outdoors man and hunter, a warrior or fearsome aspect,( and elf? Well, his mother was a woman of the Sidhe who turned into a deer so Finn ordered his men not to hunt deer… but that’s another tale.) but even more than these or rather despite undoubtedly being these he was also a poet. A sensitive guy.
He was a smart guy, a politically astute man, who served several kings in an era when regicide was the most common route for prospective sovereigns to reach their thrones. Finn seemed to know everything, perhaps it was tasting the Salmon of Knowledge , there are stories that he did, but where did all this stuff come from if not from a seed of truth?
Well, I left you plenty to think about, a bit of an intro to Finn, and perhaps you can see why I thought it was sorta cool that he might be a relative through his daughter Aine, if there was an Aine.
Happy clicking,
LSO
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